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Lily's "stand in mother" is Rosaleen. It means "little rose." Irish history used it to describe the suffering hearts of Irish women.
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* In what ways does the information about Rosaleen's name describe Rosaleen well?
* What are your thoughts on Rosaleen?
Friday, March 5, 2010
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Rosaleen’s name is very rare. Her name means “gentle horse” or “little rose”. The name Rosaleen is Germanic. It describes her really well, by the meaning of the name. Rosaleen is a weak and tender person. She is not an animal, because that is the meaning of the name. Her name was used in a Gaelic poem called, “Dark Rosaleen”. It developed from several different names. I think Rosaleen could be a great role model for Lily because she is stubborn and talks everything her way. It could rub off on Lily.
ReplyDeleteWe could think that T-Ray would get mad at Lily if she ever used the talking her own way thing on him. Just like what Rosaleen does to him when he is mean to Lily.
Rosaleen's name means "little flower", and in many ways her name doesn't suit her. She is not exactly pretty, and she certaintly isn't meek and mild-mannered. She has strong opinions and voices them(or maybe shouts them)to let people know where she stands. She is brash and bold and blunt and brave. Yet "little rose" suits her too. As Lily puts it, "Despite her sharp ways, Rosaleen has the biggest heart of anyone I have ever known, and I know she loves me." Despite all of the thorns, Rosaleen is gentle and soft at heart, even if she tends to jab people with her thorns more often than not.
ReplyDeleteLike all African-Americans living in 1964 S.C.,Rosaleen suffers from injustice. As it turns out, her name was used to describe suffering Irish women. In that sense, her name fits her very well, because Rosaleen suffers, especailly from Frank Posey and his gang of racists.
Rosaleen is a very srtong person. She holds her ground against all odds, and she never backs down. Yes, Rosaleen is a little rose. Sharp yet soft.
Rosaleen’s name describes her perfectly. In Irish history, it was used to describe the suffering hearts of Irish women. This applies to Rosaleen because she is suffering as she lives in the south as an African American woman. Just because of her ethnicity, she is treated poorly. Even when the Civil Rights Act is passed, she cannot walk freely without being called names. She is even denied basic rights. When Rosaleen is in prison, the person watching the jail lets in racist men to beat her. Throughout her whole life, Rosaleen has been suffering like this and is eager for change to come. Now that the Act has passed, it is time for that change, but it will be many years before Rosaleen can stop her suffering.
ReplyDeleteRosaleen is a very brave, free-spirited woman. She is not afraid to speak her mind and tell it like it is. At times, her matter-of-fact personality can make the book humorous. In addition to all these characteristics, Rosaleen is extremely stubborn. In fact, that is the biggest characteristic about her that pops up in the book the most so far. The biggest thing that happened to her in the novel was that Rosaleen was thrown in jail for “disturbing the peace and stealing.” When the men that she disturbed came to jail looking for an apology, she refused to give one, and they beat her. “Two of them held me by my arms while the other one hit me-the one with the flashlight. He said ‘You say you’re sorry.’ When I didn’t, he came at me. He hit me till the policeman said that was enough. He didn’t get no apology, though,” Rosaleen said. This proves that she is extremely ornery, but I respect her because she stands up for what she believes in.
I really feel bad for Lily because she is ‘motherless’ and I know that when I am not with my mother for a day or two I cry. I need her in my life and she completes me. I really cannot live without her because she is my role model and my savior. She helps me with everything like getting ready for soccer and dance and solving problems. Without her I wouldn’t make it in life. I am very impressed with Lily because she is doing just fine and even better than I would be without my mom. She has a horrible dad, who hurts her really bad, sometimes and he treats her really bad. One person she has that she can be with and still be happy is Rosaleen. Rosaleen is NOT a slave but she helps and works at their home and in the peach orchard. She comforts Lily sometimes because she is kind and sensitive so when Lily gets hurt Rosaleen will be there waiting on her hand and foot so she is comforted. Although Rosaleen is very nice and sensitive she does have manner problems, which is a complete turn off. I understand that se is from the south and wasn’t really taught right but when she belched in the Boatwright house, May, June, and August probably were thinking, “Wow, this is what we have to deal. Maybe we shouldn’t have opened our house up to them.” To me when I hear the name Rosaleen I think of Rosamean. I think this because she dropped snuff juice all over a guy instead of just letting him be. I think that she is very stubborn and I think that she needs an attitude check. Also, I think that she is like a Rose because she is very gentle and sensitive. Rosaleen can be mean and gentle at the same time. I feel that she needs to be nicer to Lily and support Lily so she doesn’t do anything that they both will regret. Lily needs a ‘stand in mother’ and that’s when, NOT FINSHED!
ReplyDeleteRosaleen is an African American who works on Lily’s father’s farm. Ever since Lily’s Mom died, Rosaleen is Lily’s Stand in mother for now. Rosaleen takes good care of Lily, and helps T-Ray and Lily with straitening up the house every day. The information that is provided my Rosaleen’s name describes her well. Since Rosaleen means “little rose” and the Irish described it as the suffering hearts of Irish woman, it can provide some information about who Rosaleen really is. Rosaleen is probably suffering a lot, since she is African American, and the Civil Rights Movement had just been past. Rosaleen go through hard times every time she goes into town, because everyone can’t accept the Movement yet, and restaurants, stores bathroom etc. are still separated between colors. Rosaleen is a very strong woman though; she will do a lot to get what she wants. For example when Rosaleen and Lily were going into town, a couple of men called Rosaleen something mean. Rosaleen was determined to get them back for what they did. Rosaleen spit snuff on the men’s shoes. She wound up going to jail, but she felt the need to get back at them, and was motivated to do what had to be done.
ReplyDeleteI think that Rosaleen is a well hearted woman who is going to take care of Lily well. Even though she is tough, and will beat up someone, that is a good characteristic to have. Lily will be totally safe in her hands for her life. Even though Lily is in good hands, Rosaleen could have a bad side to her. “Stole it from the church” she said. Just like that. Rosaleen stole the fans from the church that they stopped in. I don’t think that it is going to be a good idea to be teaching Lily about stealing. If Rosaleen keeps this up, in my opinion I think that Lily should find a new mother. Lily doesn’t need to be getting into anymore trouble than she is in. Lily will have to survive though, for the remainder of her “trip” to her new home. She will be in good hands with me new mother for now.
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ReplyDeleteThe information describes her in many ways. In one way Irish women are usually very nice and motherly which is what rosaleen is, she is very motherly towards lily. Little rose that would describe a nice, kind, gentle women who likes helping people. Rosallen is always like that until you get her mad. She also is like a rose because since a rose has spikes on it, it could use those when it gets mad. Rosleen uses he size and power to use it when she gets mad.
I think Rosaleen is a very nice, caring lady. I think she is helpful for lily because if lily didn’t have her she would have no one and would even more upset. I also think she can use some more manners when around other people. She reminds me of George in mice of men because he was always with Lennie and without George Lennie would be very upset and have a hard time doing things. Over all she’s a very kind lady and lily is lucky to have her.
Rosaleen is like her name, because she may be little to the world, but to “something smaller” (Lily) she may be the world. Just because someone may be big in size they may have small emotions, or small feelings towards others. Rosaleen is very thick and stubborn, and she stands up for what she believes in. A rose is a beautiful flower that smells delicious, but she also has a nasty side to her, and if you get a little too close she will get you.
ReplyDeleteMy opinion on Rosaleen is positive, she will never give up and whenever someone disagrees she will never back down and always stand up for her self and what she believes in. I am the same way, and this is a good way to be because this shows that you are yourself as your own person. I think that Rosaleen is an awesome person that doesn’t care about other people’s opinions, are if you are like this nobody will ever get to you.
Answer: 1. Rosaleen’s name means “little rose” in Irish and this name suits her well. Roses tend to be characterized as nice pretty flowers, which kind of represents Rosealeeen. For example Rosaleen is very kind to Lily and acts like a mother figure. She even was kind enough to allow Lily to break her out of jail and to tag along with Lily while lily was running away from home. But Rosaleen can be mean like how real life roses have sharp pointy thorns on then, which hurt if you touch them. So Rosaleen can be nice but she will be mean and protective if she has to. Just like the time she stood up for herself when those men were calling her derogatory names. Therefore Rosaleen is like a rose since she looks and acts nice but can be mean and cruel if necessary.
ReplyDelete2. I have many mixed feelings about Rosaleen and her actions. In general I think she is a very nice mother like figure but who will fight if necessary. Like how she is always kind to Lily and offers her advice about life. Also Rosaleen is a very sarcastic person who really has no faith in anything. For instance, when Lily was breaking Rosaleen out of the jail/hospital and on the way out the nurse asked them if they were already leaving. And Rosaleen’s response was, “Yeah, but I’ll probably be back before the day’s out,” which showed her sarcasm and lack of hope in an escape plan. That is what I think of Rosaleen.
Lily has been through a lot in her life. She has put up with her disgusting father figure T-ray and has dealt with her problems at school and not fitting in all by herself, without a mother. She deserves Rosaleen. Little is the complete opposite of what I was thinking. Rosaleen is the sort of women I would feel intimidated by because she is big, bossy and comes off sort of mean. Yet in reality Rosaleen really cares for Lilly, as Lilly has stated, “I was the only one who knew that despite her sharp ways, her heart was more tender than a flower skin.” Meaning under her tough façade, Rosaleen is quite a motherly person. Her name only makes sense to people who really know her, like Lilly.
ReplyDeleteI wouldn’t actually mind having Rosaleen as a stand in mother because my mother is the same, she stands up for what she believes and voices her opinion openly just like Rosaleen. If I ever were to lose my mother (which I really don’t want to happen EVER) I would want someone like Rosaleen to watch over and protect me.
When I first started reading “The secret life of bees” and first came upon Rosaleen I thought she would be as mean as T-ray but the more you read the more you saw what type of person she was. Like how she really wants to get registered to vote, how much she cares for Lilly and how much of a good-hearted person she really is.
When I hear the name Rosaleen I think of a rose and that she would be very nice and generous and loving. Now when you think of the Rosaleen in the secret life of bee’s book that’s not anything like her. But I’m sure that she wasn’t always like this, at one point in her life she was probably a very nice and loving person. But with her being an African American in those times it was hard; it was hard for everyone too but especially for her. My thoughts on her is that I think she is a very nice person on the in side but then she also worked for T-Ray for god only knows how long and her being an African American Women, well that doesn’t help at all. But I still think she’s nice just has been through a lot just like Lily.
ReplyDeleteThe information about Rosaleen’s name describes Rosaleen in a way of a backup mother. Rosaleen is no doubt a second mother for Lily, but the meaning of Rosaleen’s name “little rose,” indicates that she is young rose that is yet to sprout. In other words, she is a young “stand in mother,” who is yet to become an actual mother. Also, after the solemn death of Lily’s original mother, Rosaleen became a fill in mother for Lily after Lily’s suffering of the death of her original mother. Basically, after the tragic event with the gun was dealt with, Lily’s new mother, Rosaleen, had an arrival as Lily’s mother. “Little rose” perfectly fits the description because in Irsh history Rosaleen as little rose meant the suffering hearts of Irish women and Rosaleen was a stand in mother for the suffering heart of Lily. This an explanation of why the description “little rose,” fits Rosaleen perfectly.
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts on the meaning of Rosaleen’s name fits her ideally. I agree with the description ultimately because it makes sense why the meaning of the name was the meaning of the name. After all the suffering Lily coped with, Rosaleen came to convalesce Lily’s loss of her mother. Rosaleen is the symbol for Lily’s queen bee in my terms as I read through the novel. Lily’s only source of relationship is Rosaleen. Rosaleen is a mother, friend, and possibly even mentor. These are my thoughts expressed on the meaning of Lily’s stand in mother Rosaleen.
The name Rosaleen fits this woman well because she is suffering, working the land, then being the makeshift mother to Rosaleen. Rosaleen was constantly being pushed around by T-Ray. At one point, she was praying in front of the television while the President then passed the civil rights movement, happy as anything to see her and her people were free from the constant quarantine of the markets, restaurants, or any other place she covets to go as a real person. She suffered with people treating her disrespectfully and in these senses she was a suffering women.
ReplyDeleteI think Rosaleen was a strong woman, who speaks her mind, who finds equality and fairness in everything, with a cover of snuff. At times, she could be a tad blunt, and too outspoken, that it wound her up with the ropes of trouble. She was very caring for Lily, as Rosaleen knew how T-Ray could be abusive and such. Rosaleen wouldn't let bad things come in the same way as Lily, but this caring wouldn't come to the surface until the time really came.
Rosaleen is like a little rose because she is vey jealous sometimes and she is sometimes very caring. Rosaleen is very caring because she is Lily’s step in mother. T Ray is `Lily’s father and her doesn’t treat her like a daughter. T Ray treats her more like an animal. Rosaleen is also a little rose n=because she is not that free in the community. I think that Rosaleen should be a quite person be she is not really. I think her name is for like a quite person but Rosaleen is not that quite.
ReplyDeleteThe information about Rosaleen’s name describes her because she is just like a rose nice and pretty, but then she has a little bit of an attitude just like the thorns. Not saying anything bad about her but she could have been nicer to lily about the breaking her out of jail thing. My thoughts on her is generous, because she is the closest thing to a mother to lily than anyone else, and I think it’s nice. Rosaleen overall is a nice woman but has her moments, and when she does she apologizes, except to the racist men. To me that is acceptable because if I were rosaleen I wouldn’t apologize either!
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